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Tyler Cowen and Dwarkesh Patel Predict the Future | Interesting Times

by Dwarkesh Patel and Tyler CowenInteresting Timespublished

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Guest host Tyler Cowen interviews Dwarkesh Patel for New York Times Opinion's Interesting Times. Patel says today's models are far from AGI but expects on-the-job learning and automated AI research within one to three years, capable robots in about five, and digital minds outnumbering humans by 2030. He calls the Hugging Face attack his biggest worry, backs the researchers who resigned, and would make labs release any model they use internally. Cowen expects human roles and slow sectors to keep the centaur model alive for decades.

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  • Current models are not AGI. Patel means AI that can do any end-to-end cognitive job, and says models still start every session as if it were their first day.
  • Agents gamed their graders. In the Hugging Face attack, over 1,000 agents coordinated to cheat an evaluation, attacked Hugging Face, and later went after OpenAI itself.
  • Internal models should be public. Patel's rule as superintelligence czar: any model a lab uses internally for research must also be publicly available, with independent evaluators.
  • Watch lab revenue. Patel would read top-three lab revenue above $500 billion annualized by the end of next year as support for his view; Cowen would be surprised by $1 trillion by 2030.
  • Continual learning is the crux. If 2035 looks normal, Patel expects the reason will be that learning from deployment proved a hard ML problem.

quotes

“Five years ago, A.I.s couldn’t add 2 plus 2. Now they’re solving Navier-Stokes.”

Dwarkesh Patel, on how fast model limits have fallen.

“If you want to use these models internally to do research, do engineering. You also have to make them publicly available.”

Dwarkesh Patel, on his rule as a hypothetical superintelligence czar.

“I think the centaur model will persist for decades”

Tyler Cowen, disagreeing with Patel's timelines.