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Everything hackable will get hacked

by Malte UblVercel

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Malte Ubl argues that AI cyber offense is already here: unsafeguarded open-weight models such as Kimi K3 can map kernel attack surfaces and hunt microVM escapes, even if they failed to break Vercel Sandbox. Defenders still have a temporary edge because frontier models (Sol 5.6, not Fable 5) will do security review today, so waiting for Mythos-class access is paralysis. He wants teams to run deepsec-style codebase reviews now, then keep repeating them as open-weight offense catches up.

ideas

  • The offensive gap is already open. Unsafeguarded near-frontier open-weight models such as Kimi K3 already do cyber research at Opus-class strength.
  • A failed sandbox escape is still a research loop. Kimi did not leave Vercel Sandbox, but it mapped guest-kernel surface, privilege-escalation paths, and wrote a fuzzer; the right bug would finish the job.
  • Waiting for Mythos is paralysis. Frontier models except Fable 5 already do defensive review; source-code access is the working signal of defensive intent.
  • Spend the temporary advantage. Sol 5.6 still beats Kimi on defense; run full deepsec reviews now, especially for IDOR, XSS, and SSRF, and keep rerunning as open weights catch up.
  • Treat AI offense as a budgeted loop. Vercel spends tens of thousands on quarterly full reviews plus PR checks, opened Hobby egress firewall, and is redirecting offensive models into a sandbox HackerOne.

quotes

Kimi K3 is an Opus 4.X-class model with no relevant cybersecurity safeguards.

Malte Ubl, stating that unsafeguarded open-weight offense already exists.

While none of this produced an escape from Vercel Sandbox, it did show Kimi conducting an investigation on its own

Malte Ubl, describing autonomous sandbox-escape research that stopped short of a breakout.

As defender, you have the better tool at your disposal, but you have to use it.

Malte Ubl, arguing the current frontier-model advantage is wasted if unused.

Defenders can already use stronger models than those broadly available for offensive work.

Malte Ubl, restating the temporary defensive edge.