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Can Open Models Keep Up With OpenAI and Anthropic? | Nathan Lambert
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gist
AI researcher Nathan Lambert tells a16z partner Lisha Li that OpenAI and Anthropic lead on compute, capital and organization, not talent. Chinese open-model labs match US talent but are compute-starved, and distillation explains less than people assume. He expects open and closed models to persist as tiers, and launches Trillium, a nonprofit that will publish RL environments and document how AI automates AI research.
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- Compute is the moat. Lambert frames progress as compute, data and talent; Chinese labs are equal on talent, but an average OpenAI researcher reportedly has thousands of H100 equivalents on tap.
- Distillation is overrated. Post-training has moved from SFT on strong-model completions to RL-heavy environment training, where copying outputs from frontier models is much harder to cash in.
- Data and environments drive the frontier. Gains outside math and code come from expensive, iterative data purchases and RL environments, a booming industry with quality and reward-hacking problems.
- Open wins on a longer clock. Closed labs monetize premium markets like coding first; open weights spread later into privacy-sensitive and cost-optimized deployments where firms own fine-tuned models.
- Demystify recursive self-improvement. Scaling laws give linear gains for exponential compute, so Lambert doubts fast takeoff; Trillium plans to publish how its own work gets automated, with check-ins every six months.
quotes
“To say that China is anything but equal on talent, you're going to have a hard time. What they don't have is compute.”
“exponential increase in compute for linear increase in performance”
“not fearing fast takeoff does not mean that you don't worry about risks.”